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.45 Auto (.45 ACP) VS .38 Super

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.45 Auto (.45 ACP)

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Gun Specifications

Specifications

.45 Auto (.45 ACP)

.38 Super

Height

0.90

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Average FPS

937

Average Grain

207

Average Energy

403

Recoil

0.93

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Ballistic Coefficient

149.40

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Gun Descriptions

45 ACP 45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) Ammo is a popular handgun cartridge that is perfect to use in legendary 1911 pistols. These hard-hitting rounds are well-known around the world for both stopping power and reliability. The muzzle energy of 45 ACP ammo ranges between 300 and 500 ft. which is higher than most 9mm cartridges. Introduced in 1904 by John Moses Browning, this rimless straight-walled handgun standard cartridge operates at a low chamber pressure rating of 21,000 psi. Ballistic Properties of 45 ACP Ammo: Bullet Weight / Type Velocity Energy 185 grain / Bonded Defense 1,225 feet / second 835 Joules 185 grain / Jacketed Hollow Point 1,050 feet / second 614 Joules 200 grain / Jacketed Hollow Point +Pressurized 1,080 feet / second 702 Joules 230 grain / Federal Hydra-Shok 900 feet / second 561 Joules 230 grain / US Army Ball Full Metal Jacket 830 feet / second 477 Joules 45 ACP Ammo is available from 68 grains to 300 grains. Rounds under 100 grains and over 260 grains are specialty rounds. 186-grain and 230 grain are the perfect for reloaders and target shooters. A 230 grain round travels at about 830 ft/second when fired using a 1911 pistol. 45 ACP Ammo Specification: Case type: straight, Rimless, Bullet diameter: 11.5 mm (.452 in) Neck diameter: 12.0 mm (.473 in) Base diameter: 12.1 mm (.476 in) Rim diameter: 12.2 mm (.480 in) Rim thickness: 1.2 mm (.049 in) Case length: 22.8 mm (.898 in) Overall length: 32.4 mm (1.275 in) Case capacity: 1.73 cm3 (26.7 gr H2O) Rifling twist: 406 mm Maximum pressure (CIP): 19,900 psi (137 MPa) Maximum pressure (SAAMI): 21,000 psi (140 MPa)

The .38 Super has traveled a rather rocky road during its 121-year history. Due to its ballistic performance, accuracy in modern guns, wide selection of components and ease with which top-notch handloads can be assembled, it has become popular for action pistol competition, defense and field use. The addition of the “Automatic +P” designation in 1974 helped differentiate it from the old .38 Automatic Colt. The history of the .38 Super starts around 1897 with the development of the .38 Automatic Colt cartridge (.38 Rimless Smokeless) designed for the Colt Model 1900 Automatic Pistol. Early advertising listed a 130-grain FMJ bullet at around 1,040 fps, which was later increased to 1,070 fps. This cartridge was designed at least five years prior to the 9mm Luger. During the 1920s there was growing demand for handgun cartridges that could better penetrate car bodies, so in 1928 Colt responded with the .38 Super Automatic in its Model 1911. Essentially, the Super was dimensionally the same as the .38 Automatic Colt, including bullet weight and profile. However, being chambered in the notably stronger Model 1911 pistol, it could be loaded to much greater pressures, with velocities pushing 130-grain bullets to 1,300 fps by 1933. Pressures were increased from 23,000 CUP to 33,000 CUP. For clarification, the .38 Super should never be fired in comparatively weak Model 1900 pistols, which can be disastrous. The Super had another significant problem: It produced poor to mediocre accuracy at best. There were several contributing factors that included a bullet diameter specified at .356 inch while barrel groove diameters were known to measure .355, .356 and .357 inch. Period Colt Government Model pistols were not built with proper tolerances to achieve top accuracy. However, the largest single obstacle was Colt’s chamber specifications that resulted in poor headspace control. The .38 Super originally fired a 130-grain bullet at 1,215 fps, but by 1933 velocity was bumped to 1,300 fps before it was eventually standardized at 1,280 fps. Remington and Winchester list 130-grain FMJ loads at the original 1,215 fps while Federal offers the same bullet weight at 1,200 fps. Several smaller companies such as Buffalo Bore offer loads containing 115-grain and 124-grain JHP bullets at 1,415 fps and 1,350 fps, respectively.

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